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Fri, 9 Apr 2021 11:11:28 +03:00
Education Minister: We must check if Israel Prize winner's renunciation of BDS is 'sincere'
Gallant seeks to withhold prize from Prof. Oded Goldreich for allegedly supporting a boycott of Ariel University - despite Goldreich's denial

Fri, 9 Apr 2021 10:34:24 +03:00
U.S. Defense Secretary Austin to meet with Netanyahu, Gantz, in first visit by Biden official
This visit will 'reaffirm the enduring U.S. commitment to the U.S.-Israel strategic partnership and Israels Qualitative Military Edge'

Fri, 9 Apr 2021 06:01:03 +03:00
Iran's retaliation to Israel at sea has been largely symbolic. That could change
Much has been written about the Iranian ship Israel struck. No less important is the timing

Fri, 9 Apr 2021 06:00:39 +03:00
Netanyahu's political troubles could reverberate across Mideast
Turbulence in the coming weeks may not be confined to coalition-building ■ A routine medical checkup for Palestinian president, a possible emergency for Israel ■ Israel's vaccine drive slows down, but that's not necessarily bad news

Fri, 9 Apr 2021 06:00:16 +03:00
Netanyahu's corruption trial shows he received something far more valuable than money
Testimony of former news site CEO shows that for years a bribery culture dominated Israels largest media company

Fri, 9 Apr 2021 05:58:58 +03:00
Netanyahu liable to concoct ‘national emergency’ to keep himself in power
The fear that should now be nesting within the breast of every Israeli is of extreme moves by Netanyahu

Fri, 9 Apr 2021 00:56:03 +03:00
Italian PM calls Erdogan a 'dictator' after not giving female EU president a chair during meeting
'I absolutely do not agree with Erdogan's behavior towards President von der Leyen,' Draghi says, referring to an earlier meeting between EU leaders and Erdogan

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 23:53:07 +03:00
Behind the Israeli Arab political revolution, a growing middle class
Pothole politics rather than Palestine now top the agenda. Are Israeli Jews ready for the change?

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 23:50:52 +03:00
In a democracy, the prime minister cannot skew the media

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 23:48:58 +03:00
Naftali Bennett vs. Naftali Bennett

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 23:47:31 +03:00
These Israelis all had big dreams, then COVID came
Four Israelis tell their stories about how their businesses survived the pandemic

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 23:34:00 +03:00
An Israel Prize for the occupation

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 23:30:31 +03:00
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Thu, 8 Apr 2021 23:26:16 +03:00
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Thu, 8 Apr 2021 22:06:00 +03:00
Israeli troops shot a Palestinian teen weeks ago. His parents aren't allowed to talk to him
Ahmed was hospitalized twice, underwent surgery and was then imprisoned. But Israel hasn't let his parents visit or even speak to him on the phone. They're being kept in the dark about his condition

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 21:26:16 +03:00
New study changes our understanding of human brain evolution
We thought an advanced frontal lobe was a basal human condition, but the earliest archaic humans to leave Africa and reach Europe had a frontal cortex like chimps

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 21:16:49 +03:00
'South African Jews didn't know how Nelson Mandela would treat them. So they left for Israel'
This week at the Tel Aviv airport: A kibbutz resident heads back to her country of birth, South Africa, for the first time in 20 years, and a new dad grapples with having to part with his wife and baby

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 20:39:19 +03:00
My mom is Moroccan, my dad was Ashkenazi. It was clear which culture would prevail
Their marriage lasted two years, but it shaped my mother's identity and influenced her all her life, trapping her between two worlds

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 20:32:58 +03:00
Israel election results: Bennett, Netanyahu agree to meet again after first round of coalition talks at PM's residence
Sources say Bennett has serious intentions to form a coalition with bloc of parties opposing Netanyahu

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 20:28:22 +03:00
Lee Zeldin, leading Jewish pro-Trump voice in Congress, announces run for N.Y. governor
One of the two Jewish Republicans in Congress, Zeldin will challenge Andrew Cuomo, New York's scandal-ridden Democratic governor

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 20:27:23 +03:00
175,000 Holocaust survivors live in Israel. Most live on $101 a month in government stipends
While some Holocaust survivors in Israel are entitled to 10,000 shekels a month, the majority have to get by with a fraction of that

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 19:31:16 +03:00
Why Russians have no power over Putin? Top historian has the answer
Alexander Etkind, one of the most influential Russian thinkers, explains why it's impossible to remove the Putin regime right now, why the country's intellectual class is becoming extinct and how COVID-19 can actually benefit the planet

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 19:28:52 +03:00
Editor of Orthodox newspaper the Jewish Press was one of the Jan. 6 Capitol rioters
Elliot Resnick, who has edited the Jewish Press since 2018, was identified in a video of the Capitol breach by an anonymous researcher and first reported by Politico

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 19:02:01 +03:00
Iran will respond to attack on command ship in Red Sea, military spokesman says
'Iran will without a doubt respond after the investigation has concluded and we'll know exactly who struck' ship, says spokesman ■ On Wednesday, New York Times reported that U.S. official said Israel notified U.S. that it had struck an Iranian vess...

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:53:57 +03:00
Never-before-seen aerial photos of pre-state Israel taken by a Nazi pilot
During the longest and most complex sortie executed by the Nazis in the skies of pre-state Israel, the German Junkers plane photographed Tel Aviv, the Jordan Valley, Tiberias and an airport near Amman

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:49:44 +03:00
They're Israel's far right, pro-ethnic cleansing nationalists. But don't call them 'Nazis'
On the eve of Holocaust Remembrance Day, far right leader Bezalel Smotrich threatened Palestinian citizens of Israel with ethnic cleansing. Calling him a Nazi is too easy a way out of the real, pressing problem his camp poses for Israel and Judaism

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:03:53 +03:00
Archaeologists identify medieval Jewish homes in Oxford – by what’s not there
Excavation by a church in the heart of Oxford finds strange layer with no sign of swine, and pots in which only kosher animals were cooked

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 17:49:55 +03:00
The mystery of the Jewish boy who was forced to be Mengele's 'dog'
Archival documents reveal the story of a Jewish child who was forced to behave like a dog in Auschwitz, at the order of the camp's notorious doctor. A contemporary researcher is determined to discover what became of that boy

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 17:49:19 +03:00
Netanyahu’s shameful speech: When Holocaust Remembrance Day becomes a campaign event
For Netanyahu, the day commemorating the Holocaust is just another opportunity for a self-serving political tirade

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 16:51:40 +03:00
Elon Musk, behind you: Israeli self-driving cars to hit the road next year
How will autonomous cars affect accidents and traffic jams, and how will these vehicles react when a kid runs into the street? Mobileye CEO Amnon Shashua explains

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 16:26:25 +03:00
Iran's floating Red Sea base that Israel reportedly hit, explained
New York Times quoted an anonymous U.S. official saying Israel informed the U.S. it carried out the attack Tuesday morning on the vessel described as the 'Iranian mothership' in the region

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 16:20:59 +03:00
Israel to tell ICC it has no jurisdiction to probe alleged war crimes
Israel has decided to adopt the recommendations of the inter-ministerial team headed by the National Security Council not to cooperate with the ICC, a statement from PM's Office says

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 15:59:54 +03:00
Israeli phone-hacking firm Cellebrite to go public
Cellebrite, which has faced criticism for sales of its tech to repressive regimes, heads to NASDAQ at 2.4 billion valuation through shell company

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 15:36:57 +03:00
A blind Jewish Michigan Supreme Court justice was stuck in Dubai en route to Israel. Now he has no plans to leave
Richard Bernstein, 46, a judge serving on the Michigan Supreme Court has been living in Dubai for two months and counting

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:39:18 +03:00
Soap made from Jews and how Hitler took power: The truth behind Holocaust myths
Did the king of Denmark really wear a yellow star? Did the atom bombs get Japan to surrender? We have the answers

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:35:05 +03:00
Top court allows minister to withhold Israel Prize over BDS accusations
Court grants request to investigate whether Israel's anti-boycott law applies to a petition signed by Prof. Oded Goldreich, meaning he can't get the prize in mathematics and computer sciences this month

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 13:27:32 +03:00
India is now a key arena for Iran’s proxy war against Israel
Iran, unnerved by Delhi's pivot towards Israel and the Gulf, increasingly poses a concrete terrorist threat to Israeli interests in India, thanks to its robust intelligence footprint and willing proxies. India's government can no longer afford to loo...

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 13:02:49 +03:00
Israeli archaeologists crack mystery of cave paintings done in the dark
Some of the most beautiful Paleolithic cave art is in the pitch-black depths of cave systems, so who were they drawing for?

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 12:52:54 +03:00
After seating mishap, Turkey denies it snubbed European Union chief
Video of the diplomatic gaffe during Turkey-EU talks in Ankara shows European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen taken aback when there was no chair for her next to Erdogan

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 12:37:23 +03:00
Inside secret Syria talks aimed at freeing American hostages
The White House acknowledged the secret high-stakes meeting in Syria in October, but said little about it

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 12:27:30 +03:00
Israelis stand silent on Holocaust Remembrance Day as siren wails
Public buses and cars stopped on the streets and highways, and pedestrians stood in place in memory of the 6 million Jewish victims of the Holocaust

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 12:24:14 +03:00
Are some COVID-19 vaccines more effective than others?
Its hard to tell since they werent directly compared in studies. But experts say the vaccines are alike on what matters most: preventing hospitalizations and deaths

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 12:14:57 +03:00
Settler group takes over three East Jerusalem buildings, expanding Jewish enclave
Ateret Cohanim activists, accompanied by Israeli police, take over at least 16 apartments purchased from their Palestinian owners in the neighborhood of Silwan, in the latest move in what local councilwoman dubs 'racist struggle'

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 12:00:58 +03:00
Why a Swedish company wants to make Hebrew audio books
Israel will finally have audio books in Hebrew - thanks to a Swedish firm looking to recreate Spotifys success with titles by Yuval Noah Harari, A.B. Yehoshua and Dorit Rabinyan

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 11:39:40 +03:00
Israeli settler assaults left-wing activist after dispute on West Bank grazing land
The attack on Rabbi Arik Ascherman near an unauthorized settlement outpost, which was caught on tape, followed reports on settlers grazing their sheep on Palestinian pastures

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:38:33 +03:00
U.S. conservatives gave the Israeli right huge political power. When will the left do the same?
Funded by ideologically-driven American conservatives, the new right is redrawing Israel's political map and government policies. The center-left needs to start adopting similar practices or risk being left behind

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:32:00 +03:00
Egypt signs security agreement with Uganda amid tensions over Ethiopian Nile dam
Uganda, where the Nile begins, and Egypt agree to 'share resourceful intelligence on a regular basis' as tensions over Ethiopia's dam continue

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:16:51 +03:00
The Holocaust is in my blood: Bearing the scars and stories of survivor grandparents
My Zayde told us about his childhood in Kazimierz, and about burying half-alive bodies in Buchenwald. What it means to be the grandchild of a Holocaust survivor, and to lose them

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 09:41:36 +03:00
Israel coronavirus live: Cabinet lifts more restrictions on schools
Israel's COVID cabinet eases restrictions on gatherings ■ Infection rate down after brief uptick ■ Gaza under full lockdown as cases rise

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 06:03:15 +03:00
The latest reported Israeli attack on an Iranian ship seems like a deliberate escalation
Unlike previous attacks attributed to Israel, which targeted oil and weapons shipments, the target this time was directly tied to the Iranian Revolutionary Guards

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 01:25:47 +03:00
Israeli strike near Damascus kills three pro-Iranian fighters, war monitor says
The overnight strikes in Syria attributed to Israel targeted an arms depot in an area manned by Lebanon's Hezbollah group, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 01:09:15 +03:00
Netanyahu trial: News site CEO warned to drop story on PM's wife lest it thwart merger
Walla CEO Ilan Yeshua says he was ordered to remove negative coverage of the prime minister for fear that it would harm merger plans between Walla's parent company, Bezeq, and the satellite TV firm Yes

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 00:18:48 +03:00
Massive backups at Israel’s ports taking big toll on local businesses
Some shipping companies are said to be avoiding Haifa and Ashdod due to backup of dozens of ships forced to wait weeks to unload cargo

Thu, 8 Apr 2021 00:07:34 +03:00
U.S. ready to partially lift Iran sanctions to push return to nuclear accord
'We are prepared to take the steps necessary to return to compliance with the JCPOA, including by lifting sanctions that are inconsistent with the JCPOA,' said the U.S. State Department

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 23:58:40 +03:00
Israel’s COVID recovery won't offset pandemic losses
The forecast of 5% GDP growth in 2021 doesn't tell the full story, with the per capita figure significantly lower

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 23:46:04 +03:00
Cease fire, Gallant: Give Israel Prize to radical mathematician

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 23:33:04 +03:00
Haaretz Cartoon

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 23:20:19 +03:00
Jerusalem approves construction of 540 housing units beyond city’s 1967 lines
The plan, which would expand the Har Homa neighborhood and just needs district-level approval, would help isolate a Palestinian neighborhood and possibly cause a headache for Joe Biden

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 22:54:07 +03:00
Israel's El Al plans $105 million share issue to meet bailout terms
The government agrees to a $210 million bailout of El Al, which changed hands in late 2020 and was forced to slash one-third of its staff, or 2,000 workers

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 22:52:32 +03:00
Israel's finance minister defies economists on unemployment benefits
Israel Katz's call to preserve benefits spurs fears of continued high unemployment rates

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 22:48:26 +03:00
Arabs in Israel are not allowed to be happy. Or sad

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 22:45:46 +03:00
Jordan's King Abdullah has bigger concerns than a family feud, and Israel should worry, too
With the kingdom suffering a 24 percent unemployment rate, 1.3 million Syrian refugees and a water shortage that could start a war one day, Israel should think about boosting cooperation with its neighbor

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 22:44:38 +03:00
Hamas orders lockdown in Gaza as COVID infections spike
Security agencies say that they will enforce all regulations in Gaza, including prohibitions on gatherings and weddings, as well as any other mass events

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 21:54:24 +03:00
Biden speaks to Jordanian king, affirms strong U.S. support
King Abdullah says sedition has been quashed after a rift with his half-brother and former crown prince Hamza, and that the country is now stable and secure

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 21:41:34 +03:00
U.S. Jewish organizations decry 'despicable' anti-Arab remarks from Netanyahu ally
Jewish groups issue sharp rebukes after Bezalel Smotrich says that Arabs who do not recognize Jewish rule over Israel 'will not remain here'

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 21:21:12 +03:00
Biden resumes U.S. aid to UN agency supporting Palestinian refugees
The resumption of aid is the latest step the Biden administration has undertaken to repair U.S.-Palestinian relations which came to a halt during the Trump administration

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 21:04:28 +03:00
JNF to vote on West Bank land purchases – even at isolated settlements
A yes vote on the controversial proposal, which could lead to the expansion of settlements, will send the matter to the JNF's board on April 22

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 20:25:39 +03:00
Netanyahu cautions against Iran deal at Holocaust remembrance ceremony
President Rivlin honors survivors who lost their lives to COVID-19 at the ceremony marking the eve of Holocaust Remembrance Day at Yad Vashem

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 20:16:05 +03:00
We know the road to Treblinka

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 19:52:11 +03:00
High Court denies petition calling for release of Israeli secret service documents on Mizrahi protests
Releasing such materials could reveal the Shin Bet's methods and potentially threat 'national security,' the court said

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 19:31:30 +03:00
The devastating Maoist chapter in the life of a prominent Holocaust historian
Admired historian Annette Wieviorka's visit to China in the 1970s as a Maoist student turned her world upside down. 'We saw trucks carrying people with shaved heads, bent over, eyes downcast'

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 19:19:35 +03:00
Jordan king, addressing family feud, says 'sedition buried'
The whereabouts of King Abdullah II's half brother, Prince Hamzah, who is at the heart of the dispute, are unknown

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 19:06:47 +03:00
Fake news and Holocaust imagery: COVID anti-vaxxers around the world take aim at Israel
With its vaccine success and green passport program in full swing, Israel is finding itself at the center of COVID conspiracy theories old and new from anti-vaccination activists

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 18:45:26 +03:00
U.S. to restore about $150 million in aid to Palestinians, sources say
President Joe Biden's administration has made clear it intends to roll back parts of Trump's approach that Palestinians denounced as heavily biased in favor of Israel

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 18:28:30 +03:00
Israel closes case against Shin Bet officers for invasive cavity search of Palestinian woman
The prosecution is expected to close the cases against an additional three soldiers, who were suspected of being involved in the 2015 affair

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 18:05:54 +03:00
Earliest modern humans in Europe had Neanderthals in the family
Archaeologists identify one of the first women to reach Europe. Her line died out, but three other early humans, in Bulgaria, appear to have descendants today

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 17:32:37 +03:00
German volunteers in Israel find themselves ‘welcomed, and even loved’ by Holocaust survivors
These German Christians came to Israel to help Holocaust survivors and chose to stay during the pandemic, forging new connections and engaging with living history

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 17:14:51 +03:00
Facebook reveals: The real Iranian disinformation wars
The latest takedown of fake accounts from Facebook shows that a secret war is underway online - but its not between Israel and Iran, but rather Iranians vs Iranians

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 16:36:42 +03:00
The British hangman who executed Belsen's most sadistic Nazi women
Albert Pierrepoint, whose task included executing the 'Beast of Belsen' and the 'blonde who beat inmates to death,' wrote after the Holocaust that the death penalty solves nothing

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 16:36:11 +03:00
Netanyahu's far-right ally: Israel belongs to the Jews. Arabs who don't recognize that won't stay here
Arab lawmaker Ahmad Tibi responds to Bezalel Smotrich's statement on the eve of Holocaust Remembrance Day. In German

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:41:40 +03:00
Holocaust facts: Where does the figure of 6 million victims come from?
Considering the amount of original research that has been done in recent decades, is this number still considered accurate by scholars of the subject?

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:38:48 +03:00
Israel has issued five times more demolition orders for Palestinians than settlers
These orders, which cannot be appealed, require those living in areas under full Israeli control to show a building permit within 96 hours, after which Civil Administration can demolish the structure

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:36:28 +03:00
Holocaust movies: 21 must-see films beyond Schindler's List
Exploring not only what was, but what could have been

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:01:28 +03:00
Ocasio-Cortez meets with top NYC Jewish group: Talks Israel-Palestinian conflict
Ocasio-Cortez said she objected to the detention of minors. She has praised Rep. Betty McCollum, D-Minn., for legislation that would withhold funding from Israel over its detention of Palestinian children

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 14:52:34 +03:00
Iran's enriched uranium production speeds up amid hopes to revive deal
As U.S.-Iran Vienna talks hope to bring back nuclear deal, Tehran says enriched uranium production rate is 'up to 40 percent' faster

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 13:27:48 +03:00
When it comes to vaccinations, my husband thinks it’s better to be in Gaza than the West Bank
Forat is enjoying the sugary breakfast cereal, chocolate milk and processed and sweetened foods she's been getting at school, but Osama's news is even sweeter ■ Post #30

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 12:32:50 +03:00
COVID updates: Gaza infection hits all-time high
Israel debates ending outdoor mask mandate ■ Number of serious COVID cases at four-month low ■ 52 percent fully vaccinated ■ High Court rules fines given to protesters during lockdown were illegal

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 12:27:41 +03:00
Battle for ancient Yemen desert city now key factor in Iran, U.S. tensions
The fight is also squeezing a pressure point on the most powerful of Americas Gulf Arab allies and ensnarling any U.S. return to Irans nuclear deal

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 12:20:00 +03:00
Plan allowing vaccinated tourists into Israel to be approved next week, minister says
In the first phase, Israel would allow organized groups to enter, and then individual tourists at a later date, tourism minister says

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 10:59:16 +03:00
Israeli spies-for-hire reportedly posed as Fox News journalists to dig dirt for UAE clients
Daily Beast investigation uncovered a plot in which Israeli private intelligence firm Bluehawk CI employees masqueraded as U.S. and Italian reporters in search of dirt on UAE royals

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 10:32:45 +03:00
The second, unknown, sexpionage agent in Israeli nuke spy's entrapment
The Mossad's 'Cindy' is famous for helping abduct Mordechai Vanunu in 1986. But she wasn't the only honey trap

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 10:11:14 +03:00
A new definition of antisemitism is out, and the antisemites love it
There's a new left-leaning contender in the raging battle to define antisemitism: The Jerusalem Declaration. But its proponents seem curiously unwilling to actually label anything as antisemitic

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:28:19 +03:00
Netanyahu trial: PM aides vetted senior appointments at news site, key witness says
Ex-Walla CEO Ilan Yeshua has testified that he was asked by Bezeq's owners to erase all correspondence indicating that the sites coverage had been tilted in Netanyahu's favor

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:12:26 +03:00
Israel hit Iranian command ship in Red Sea, U.S. official confirms
Israel notified the U.S. of its 'retaliatory' attack on an Iranian ship that serves as a floating base for Red Sea operations, the New York Times reports ■ Iranian Foreign Ministry confirms the attack

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 06:00:28 +03:00
Israel election: Netanyahu's latest win proves there's no such thing as the 'anti-Bibi bloc'
Gideon Sa'ar promised Israel a 'new hope,' and termed replacing Netanyahu the most important national mission. But his hope lasted exactly two weeks

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 05:59:57 +03:00
In his first post-election speech, 'compassionate' Bennett was nowhere to be found
For months before Israel's election, Naftali Bennett tried to persuade listeners that his priorities had changed completely

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 02:56:44 +03:00
Israel election: The president granted a license to the leader of the gang

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 02:37:09 +03:00
How Gideon Sa’ar became a darling of Haaretz

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 01:37:35 +03:00
Does deputy minister have ties with Haredi charity set to benefit from child safety system law?
Deputy Transportation Minister Uri Maklev advanced a law requiring cars to have a system to prevent children from being forgotten in them. The specifications he gave the Knesset match a system sold by a Haredi charity

Wed, 7 Apr 2021 01:06:48 +03:00
Israeli hotels struggle to pivot to local tourists
With most foreign destinations closed and restrictions on children's travel abroad, demand for hotels from domestic Israeli tourists should be off the charts, but it's not



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